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Alison Teal’s Wild Idea: To Travel the World, Thrive on Discovery Channel’s Naked and Afraid, and Make Movies That Get People to Pay Attention to Plastic Pollution and Protecting Our Environment.

There’s a reason Oprah Magazine calls Alison Teal the “Oprah of Adventures” and Time calls her the “Female Indiana Jones.” While you and I were going to regular school, she was riding camels and climbing in Nepal with her adventurous parents. After studying film at USC, she was invited to participate on the Discovery Channel show, Naked and Afraid. She not only survived 21 days with a guy in the wilderness naked (and then made a grass skirt and coconut bikini), but she used her fame from getting the highest Primaries Survival Rating) on Season One of the show to promote an important purpose, protecting our planet. Alison does it all with a ton of passion, a bikini and a pink surfboard. This episodes tells her story, to the tune of tropical birds signing behind her computer at her adventure house on the Big Island of Hawaii.

HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE SHOW

  • 03:40 – How Alison came to be, with a quick mention about a hot, passionate night in Bolivia.
  • 04:25 – How Alison was born on the floor of a log cabin in Colorado and her extremely adventurous parents.
  • 07:50 – How Alison grew up with Ashtanga Yoga Guru, Pattabi Jois. The companies, including National Geographic, Columbia and more, that he father shot photos for.
  • 10:35 – The places Alison traveled to as a kid, including camel rides through the desert and more..
  • 13:10 – Some of the most profound places Alison has been to: India, Himalayas, Bali, and so much more.
  • 16:25 – How Alison knows the Shaman from Elizabeth Gilbert’s book, Eat, Pray Love, and grew up with him.
  • 16:55 – Alison’s thoughts on “Magic.”
  • 17:30 – How Alison actually met Disney’s Aladdin character in real life
  • 21:20 – Why Alison wanted to learn so much when she finally went to school..
  • 23:55 – How Alison makes her movies relatable, even to kids.
  • 24:40 – How the Discovery Channel found Alison for Naked and Afraid.
  • 34:55 – What happened when Alison got back from surviving 21 days with almost no food on an island. (There was a little PTSD as to be expected).
  • 37:00 – How Alison used her newfound fame to promote an important cause, reducing plastic pollution.
  • 39:55 – How Alison Went Back to Trash Island, What it is and How She Managed to Get things Done With a Pink Bikini and a Pink Surfboard.
  • 48:00 – Alison’s surfboards, and how they are eco-friendly.
  • 54:35 – Advice Alison would have given her 15-year-old self, including a memorable moment when she wore a hula skirt at a teen talent show. “Own who you are. Own it!”
  • 57:25 – Why Alison doesn’t drink alcohol.
  • 01:03:30 – What is coming down the pipeline for Alison, including a new book soon.

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Alison’s Adventures Website
Alison on Youtube
Alison’s video, One Person’s Trash is Another’s Bikini
Alison’s Season on Naked and Afraid
Lost Surfboards
Alison’s Odina Surf Collection Bikinis
Eat, Pray, Love
Alison on Instagram
Alison on Facebook
Alison on Twitter
Alison’s Friend and Photographer, Sarah Lee Photos
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Surfdiva.com — WildIdeas for a $10 giftcard after purchase of lesson.

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Welcome wild ideas worth living this is a podcast where we talk to experts who have taken a wild idea and made it a reality from sailing around the world to launching a thriving business for just standing up for what you believe in. Wow this is the most rewarding adventures you your host. Journalist Shelby Stanger.

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Allison grew up with an incredibly untraditional upbringing. She traveled all around the world hiked the Himalayas at age seven. She rode camels and all she wanted to do was go to school. While all of us just wanted to be like her. Allison ended up going to film school and she started making movies right after college and then she ended up getting invited to be on the show Naked and Afraid. That's right. She went absolutely butt naked on an island with a one dude and not only did she survive for 21 days but she won the holding show. Allison talks about how she did it and that she shares with us some interesting views about magic about fear about my favorite sport surfing about pollution and how anyone with a wild idea can make whatever they want happen. I get a little excited during the interview so excuse my excitement but Alison's is a credible storyteller. And what I love about Alison is her whole life has been about having a wild idea worth living. So without further ado let's welcome Alison Teal to the show. Welcome to the show Allison Tia. I've heard so much about you. I've loved meeting you briefly and I'm so excited to have you on this show is all about wild ideas worth living I mean that's the name of the show and your whole your whole life has been a wild idea worth living so we could be more excited to have you on the show.

Welcome. Thank you. Aloha. Aloha. I love it you say aloha. Where are you right now are you on the big island.

I am sitting in my home sweet grass Jack. Yeah. So going on the big island it's like very Robinson Crusoe you can can you hear the birds there all I can hear them a little bit.

It sounds beautiful there.

Now let's just start with that let's go right into the beginning from I heard you talking to someone else about how you were born and you said you start it started from a hot Bolivian night to a log cabin in Colorado.

Isn't that funny. Yep I was. I was created one night in Bolivia so the parents say I love you and I know this.

Your parents told you this. I've never asked my parents that question. Oh you. I know I should but I don't. Anyway let's keep going with you. This is about you not me.

Oh well we'll get back to you on that one I'm curious to no. OK.

You know my parents were extreme adventurers actually more in ski in the mountains and they traveled the world. They were extreme expeditionary is on the cover of every magazine from outside magazine to Aspen extreme magazines all over. And you know one day they decided gosh how often would it be to be able to share this with someone.

I'm going to go away you know who isn't a client or somebody there guiding on a trip they thought wow what if what if we actually had a kid and we could raise her and share the world with her literally. And so I was born on the floor of a log cabin in the mountains of Aldora Colorado above Boulder that my dad actually built by hand. And it was in a blizzard. And it's funny because they you know thought they raised a skier and I became a surfer when I was about three months old mountain bike magazine signed them a photojournalism assignment to come to the Big Island of Hawaii for three months. They traveled in the first mountain on the first mountain bikes with me and the burly cart. I was a baby pulling pulling me behind singing me songs and they came across as beautiful ocean front property in Y and it had never been sold and the history of Hawaii and they were kind of in the realm of like oh my gosh how cool would it be to move to Hawaii with no frozen pipes you know. No not shoveling snow every day. But little did they know they were getting into a pretty big masterpiece here. They ended up buying this piece of property. Again it had Queen Lily Kalani on the deed and we were just this kind of pumpkin granola family as I call it this Heebee family and they just fell in love with us the wine family and decided to sell it to us. And it had nothing.

It was full of scorpions and centipedes and thorn bushes and you know this was a few decades ago. And over my lifetime with the incredible skills of my MacGyver papa we've built this very Robinson Crusoe Swiss Family Robinson. I think it's the only yoga. It's the only oceanfront yoga retreat center our retreat center period in Hawaii. And so we have people come here now to get to experience you know living in nature learning about sustainability learning yoga from my mom and adventure with me and I just kind of one of the many cogen and hats that I wear is is being you know the daughter here. And the adventure it's a pretty special spot. You'll have to come up. It's like a kind of one of the last primitive fishing villages in the world. We still you know have the dolphin and the whales come in and the fishing boats go out and it's real Hawaii. You know I saw more on the video and I was like wow that's really like growing up.

Alison you do not have to pull my arm very hard to get me to come to the big island of Hawaii. We definitely want to move there so we need to talk about that as well. But but let's go back to your parents. First of all your house sounds incredible and I can hear the birds in the background hopefully the audience can hear that as well. I'm sitting in Southern California. It's wintertime. I just went surfing which is great because we also live oceanfront right now and it's freezing. But I did see a dolphin so that was really cool. I love that we're on. We're on opposite sides of weather right now is probably really warm there. It's freezing here. Yep.

Awesome. Is it a full suit.

I wish I had had booties I turned purple but I'm not complaining. It was awesome. So your parents you really interesting your dad was a photographer for really big brands and National Geographic. And you said he worked for Patagonia in Colombia and then you once told me.

So your mom you told me Your mom's a famous Yogi.

And I remember when I met you I had actually just done a yoga teacher training and for those of you listening yes definitely roll your eyes. I told used to make fun of yogis but I love yoga yoga is awesome. I love how it makes me feel not just my body but especially my mind. And so I just want to know a little bit more about your parents and their backgrounds and especially your mom and me when I met you you said you know like oh you do yoga. You just did yoga teacher training. I know. And you dropped the name of like the guy who founded yoga and he was your buddy growing up.

Yeah. Well to put it in a coconut shell yes.

My dad was an extreme adventure and he kind of was like How can I sustain this and take my family along. And so they kind of put their heads together and founded their company called Yoga adventure. So what they would do is they would take people around the world leading them on yoga adventure trips and at the same time we would have sponsorship from U.S. companies like Patagonia and my dad was their photographer for over like 20 30 years. And we'd go get the extreme shots for these magazines of either people's product or like I said photo you know journalism assignments. And along the way my mom who was a huge yoga Duboce would rope us into all these you know wild Ostrov that we have to study yoga here.

Let's go there and when I was about 11 maybe we went and lived with Patani Joyce who is they say you know the founder of Ashtanga yoga. It was before you know anything was really happening at his studio.

We can only fit like five to 10 people in my little room when they were all you know I was like oh I've been with all these 20 yogis and I had to get up at 4:00 in the morning every day and do a four hour practice and it was it was an interesting experience for sure at that age.

And you know I think yoga is more of a lifestyle than anything else like you don't have to twist yourself into a pretzel to be a yogi. And I think that's you know a misconception Nowadays it's like. Yoga is just everywhere and it's such a buzz word. And I think it's about being a loving person. It's about being flexible in life it's about staying healthy and you know my mom does teacher trainings at our house every June and she trains a lot of the teachers in the world. My dad calls it hot girl month because of his cousin but all these girls come from all over the world and live at our our home here on the on the ocean all you know that's hard earned. It's like I actually Tyrol's slowly growing up are you kind of I kind of got to rebel against what my my parents do. You know I can't be that. I became the filmmaker instead of the Yogi I think I took up more after my after my pop up a yeah it's good to have. And she's amazing. Gosh. Well do you both. I mean I love that.

Can you tell me a little bit more about your really unusual upbringing. It sounds like you traveled all around the world by the age of probably 12. You'd been a lot of places and you have listened to other interviews with you and one thing that's really interesting is you talk about wanting to go to school when most kids all they want to do is ride camels and travel around the world to maybe tell me a little bit about the places you you've been to. And then this desire to go to school get interesting.

Their wisdom actually went to school I was seven and it was at the base of Mt. Everest. I'll backtrack a Legia into that.

But you know yes I was basically that Tarzan child raised around the world when I was about two months old and we still living in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado in a little log cabin.

My parents decided it was time for my first adventure family adventure not to Disneyland but to the highest peak in southern Peru and they took me up it and I turned blue. So I have an excuse now. Every time I do something weird I can be like well it's cause my parents took me to altitude when I was two months old and that you know after that my life has just been this wild whirlwind of adventure we took camels across the Rajasthan desert dugout canoes down the Amazon trekked across the Himalayas.

You know by the age of seven I'd been more places than I guess most people may travel to in their entire lives. And the interesting thing was is that you know the grass is always going to be greener. So while I was living the life that you know many kids and adults dream of in my heart and soul I felt like I was missing out because I would get on the airplane in between countries and I would see Disney movies and I'd see kids having slumber parties and you know having little school box lunches and getting on the big yellow school bus. And so of course you think you're missing out. And so I begged my parents to go to school. So when I was about seven and we were checking to Mt. Everest I was so overwhelmed. A kind of school and they said OK go to school. So the next morning I got up with the Sherpa children. Like 4:00 in the morning. We chucked over a normal 17000 foot pass to go to school. Like making little fires along the way.

Definitely not what 17000 foot pass to go to school.

Yes that's what they do every morning not what I had envisioned right. It was pretty fascinating actually made my film Rita my very first film about that so people can check it out. Are ITA. It's on my youtube and my web site about my experience with that. Pretty wild huh.

That's that's very well. Alison I love your films. You're an incredible filmmaker maker for those who don't know if you go to Alison Adventure's dotcom and that's Alison with one l. Alison has been producing a YouTube series for a little while now and she has remarkable videos. We're to talk more about them later but I want to go back to your childhood because it's so fascinating. So where are some of the most profound places that really stuck with you today. Some of the most memorable places you visited and who are some of the most amazing people you met as a kid.

That's a big question. We'll let's see. I would say you know India is very magical. It has the animals and the smells and the spices. The Himalayas are very rugged and majestic. You know you're just in awe. Every minute you feel very tiny especially as a little kid. He actually grew up a lot in Bali in Indonesia. And that to me feels like a second home. You know the monkeys in the monkey forest eating I know Goddo and I was a Balinese dance temple dancer with the little kitten. You know I didn't even know I was Howly or white. I was just kind of going along with the different cultures. I went to Jamaica when I was little Apparently I really loved reggae music and I was Jamuna out but I'm too I was too young to really remember and why you know to me is is really special we call it like two and a half world it's not only third world and it's not first world it's kind of this in-between magical place and I really do love my home. I actually went to France recently and that was unbelievable. I got to speak at the environmental world forum and I ate too many chocolate with Samson and you know just getting to experience kind of the non-tribal cultures has been fun for me because I grew up in the very primitive cultures and now it's been fun getting to see you know other places.

And in terms of how the people that have inspired me you know I was I always get good chuckles because people like the Sharmin from Eat Pray Love Yeah I wanted to talk to you about that because you know the Sharmin from Eat Pray Love and you knew him as a kid and I don't know a woman who hasn't read that book wanted to jump on a plane to Bali and go meet him including me right.

He was my painting teacher growing up. It just kind of cracks me up. Wow that thing is that when you grow up with these villages and in these cultures they're just people to you. And oftentimes the shamans are kind of the wildest craziest people but they're revered in those cultures because they have this you know sort of six censer way to connect you with whatever you know whatever I need and call it spirit vibe. However they they do it it's pretty it's pretty amazing to be honest. And Elizabeth Gilbert actually talks about this in her book. Ketut layer was a very I would call him a touristy Sharmin he'd always come in sometimes I'd watch him do handwriting's because he really he would read people's palms and he'd say the same reading for like 25 women. But I imagine after like millions come to visit you and you probably you start giving up. But but to answer your question about Shearman's and incredible people. He's just one of the many I grew up with there and I've seen you know this one like this one Shawmut I grew up there. He had a plan that could cure cancer. He came up to me and told me I had an extra rib in my neck and it was going to cause me problems and I was like why. And then finally in college it started hurting and I got an X-ray and sure enough I had an extra rib and wow you know just our friend wanted to get married and couldn't find any.

Three years and he said OK I'm going to do this ceremony and you're going to be married next month and boom it happened and you know so it's it's pretty amazing when you grow up around the world. Magic becomes just second nature. It's not something that is like Woo-Woo your hippy dippy it's just acknowledged there. Does that make sense. Like ya the late May have been magic.

Can you talk to me more about this idea of magic. I really like this. What other instances of magic had happened in your life.

Oh my gosh you know. To be honest. Magic is what. And you could call it magic you could call it. I like to call it magic.

I understand I know it's not. But like but tell me I've got it. I think this is an interesting concept.

You know the magic is actually what inspired me to make my Allisons adventure series because when I was flying between cultures and watching those Disney movies on the airplane you know I would say to my mom like Hang on I know the real Aladdin or you know these magical creatures really exist. I've seen them or you know like you start to TOS to see these things and want to share that. These people are really real and I've met them and for example speaking of Aladdin like when I was in Morocco I was in the market Americare and I met this man all wrapped in his turban you know from the Sahara Desert and he was a faith healer and he told me to come over and he said I was going to have a really serious surfing accident if I didn't kiss a live cobra snake apparently in their culture they use Cobras for all kinds of things. And so I thought OK better safe than sorry and I kissed this snake and lived through it luckily and I had a horrible surfing accident and I still today do not know how I lived through the accident like it was really I should have probably died. But I made it out alive and all that broke was the phone on my surfboard and you know I can attribute those kind of things to our. Is is are the magic around us. And I think it's a choice. It's not like in Peter Pan You know when Tinkerbell is like you have to believe in it. You kind of have to believe it's there and then it start working into your life.

And so with my film series every episode has an element of magic and you go check it out you know from the legend of the fire walkers that lost island where people can walk on fire and it's just second nature to them and so I hope to bring that to this culture. That's kind of been my mission.

You know what I love about your movies. And for those of you listening Allison has you went to film school. SC is that correct.

Yep yep. Actually went to UC Berkeley at first and then I transferred over to USC film school because I really wanted to get at it you know they say this is the best film school in the world and it was an incredible school. But I think you know anything in life is what you put into it. And so I went crazy I was like I have to make awesome films and you know I was like huge overachiever I was so excited to share my stories because I had never really hadn't gotten burnt out with school yet.

You know I had been doing this was your first school. So what did you do. I mean there was Essie's like a real college with football team sororities.

Oh gosh that was pretty funny actually. That you can imagine like home school girl goes to goes to the college with one of the biggest Greek systems in the world. It was an experience for sure. The film school there to give you an idea this isn't to like toot my own horn but I was just blown away. I mean they'll accept like 10 to 15 at the time. I don't know what it's like now but I graduated I think in 0 8 0 7 and they only accepted like 15 10 to 15 students a year and not many girls obviously are in the film industry so I was oftentimes the only girl in my class and it was just incredible to feel like part of this. It was kind of a family you know we were all this like overachieving crazy family that wanted to create masterpieces. And it was really fun. But if you can imagine I'd lived in tents in jungles and suddenly I'm living in downtown Los Angeles. And to me that was the wildest jungle I'd ever lived in and try to find you know my way around and figure out you know what grades were and if I got an A on a paper did that mean I was absent or did it may not be calling my mom like what is this.

How could I she would shoot me. Oh god sorry.

No was going to say I think that you are testament to a lot of people growing up that would meet me were like How's your daughter going to survive. And how is she going to you know be educated in what's going to happen with her if you just travel with her and you know put her through school. And. Again I'm not bashing you know the formal education system I think school's incredibly important but I think experiential education can be more important if it's not equally important like growing up around the world the world is my classroom. And like if I want to learn about India I'd walk out my back door and it's not like my parents were slackers like oh I don't do homework. They were on it but it was it was first hand learning about things firsthand rather than in a classroom setting. So when I went to school I had this extreme passion to learn and to gain more knowledge. Whereas I think a lot of people get burnt out by then. And so I think that one thing that I yeah and I got into every college I applied to some really big names and you know I think it's just a testament to it doesn't nothing has to be done a certain way to be successful. It's all about good parenting. You know what you put a new get out and really just believing in it and wanting to do it.

I think that's pretty much what I love about your movies is they really transcend demographics. You know they're not they're not these like hipster movies where it allows appeals a certain amount of people. I watched a movie you showed at a Patagonia store in Cardiff and the kids especially the kids love them you know is that is that part of your recipe to make them relatable to kids.

It's so funny because what's your audience and I'm like everyone knows. How can it be everyone. Why not. You know again with Disney movies like finding nemo you see dads and kids and moms and teenagers and you know we were we went to see Madonna last night and there was every age range in the theater and I think that's something that Disney has mastered as a kind of magic and good storytelling can touch the heart of anyone. Again I to answer your question in terms of kids of course geared towards kids because there are future generations and they're the ones that really I believe need to be inspired and learn about you know plastic pollution or magic or other cultures. Actually before the shamans and these cultures disappear I think that the key to saving our planet and our world is learning the stories that have been passed on you know the myths the agents because they have the morals and they have the things that we need to live by in the survival secrets. I mean that's how I was basically able to survive Naked and Afraid was from everything I had learned from the stories and the things growing up that I got to experience firsthand. So it's fun to inspire the kids because they really get into it and the snakes and the elephants and the Tigers. But I try to also make it so that you know and again my whole thing is humor. Like I said the most important thing to pack on an adventure is humor and that's been a huge thing with my film as if you have humor.

People can learn if you make something boring like why would anybody want to learn from that. Right.

I love that. I honestly think humor is the cure to many things in life. I think that's great advice. And this is a perfect segue segue because we were just talking about you know you make these beautiful movies and they're really relatable to kids. I watch these little kids eyes light up when you showed one of your movies at a Patagonia store. It was just awesome. And we all came up to you afterwards and I think that's that's really refreshing because you're young and you're make you know a lot of young people get out of film school make these really edgy films and you're making them really friendly and it's awesome. So I want to talk about the not so kid friendly show. It's still pretty kid friendly but naked and afraid. You first of all I mean you took a show that's supposed to be a little edgy and sexy. You got naked on an island with just one dude who was awesome. And then he used it to spread a bigger message. I want to talk about all about this.

But first how did you get invited to be on the show Naked and Afraid. How did they find you.

Exactly right. Well it's it's amazing that they did and that's another thing I attribute to magic. I was sitting on the Lost Island of the fire walkers filming this chief. My phone was turned on.

Here it is.

Island Of The stylish firewalking walkers in Fiji It was one of the films I was making and it right out of college out of college I was out of college you know my whole dream during college was to get the skills to then set off. I always say with my pink surfboard under one arm my camera under the other on top of my camel which is you know just got my branding but I do ride camels a lot and set off across the world to make my education through entertainment film series and you know I was on a mission to inspire the youth to go in and make it kid friendly and do inspirational school tours and then suddenly I get a call out of the middle of in the middle of nowhere literally I didn't even know my phone could work. And it's Discovery Channel being like Hey we were wondering if you want to go to the harshest environment on Earth. For a month with a man you've never met make it. And my jaw dropped like 20 feet and I'm like I was almost offended that they even said that it was a joke because like you got to be kidding me right. And I kind of said thank you very much but no thank you. And then over about a year I kept talking with the producers and it turned out you know it's not Playboy we're not doing an MTV you know you know real real housewives of survival. It was it was real and it was like what if what if there was Adam and Eve and they were there and there was nothing and how would you survive.

The concept of the show was supposed to be and became the most challenging survival show in the history of television and they called the Everest of survival challenges where they put a man and a woman alone for almost a month with nothing in the harshest environments on Earth. And we were the first we were sent to where the second first or second were sent to the mall the eaves. We were right on the equator on this tiny little island. It was like 120 degrees and we got off the boat and yeah we had to survive and it just it took absolutely everything that I possibly had in me. But I think I learned more from it than anything else I've ever done.

How many days were you actually on the island. Want to Wow 22 days on an island what did the other guy say 22 days as well.

Go. Yes he did. He had a hard time and he got really sunburnt at the beginning and I don't know if he was you know there's a different kind of survival he was.

Guys you get sunburnt are so cranky. I don't need to say anymore.

Yeah. Yeah he was a recon Marine and here I was you know like doing my my traditional primitive survival and I kind of had to keep him alive and myself and we didn't eat God we didn't eat for like 16 days I don't think. But you know it really showed me. I would say what a human has in them. Like a testament to. You know like people say if something falls on their child and they they do an inhuman thing where they're able to lift off a heavy card. They don't know how they did it. It's kind of like if we're faced with this big of a challenge we can overcome it even if we don't know or think that we can make that make sense. And to boot I realized how much I knew because I had never taken a survival course in my life. But like I said growing up in these cultures and learning how to weave coconut hats in Hawaii or how a you know certain styles of catching fish you know in Indonesia or making shelters or different things I learned from my dad on sustainability and you kind of just my whole life has been survival like 101. So it was it was an ode to my parents and honor to them you know to show that they had quote raised me right and successful and in their eyes it was a real coming of age in the Native American culture is in many cultures they send young people out on vision quest. And I think that's so important.

I don't think you need to go naked on an island and starve but just you know have that vision quest where you push yourself to the limits and get to learn things about yourself is pretty important. And a lot of help. Yeah it was it was wild.

How did you prepare for the show. How did you meet it all with like any Hawaiian elders or do anything.

You know it's funny you ask actually made a whole film about it.

It's called Wildchild and it's time I got that from I watched that film I'll be OK.

Yeah I it.

I had about a week to prepare when they told me where I was going because I could've gone anywhere. You know they they don't they purposely kind of don't tell you your location and so it's survival is dependent on place so if you're in the Himalayas versus the tropics it's a completely different thing and you know it took cavemen and people back then hundreds of years thousand year to just to form tools let alone actually eat and survive.

So you know you're compressing history into a ridiculously short amount of time and trying to survive. So I went around to all the elders I could find in the community in Hawaii asking them you know their stories from ancient times about fish hooks and fishing and what kind of plants and anything I could eat what I should do. And a lot of it comes down to mindset. And one of my Samoan friends is just so loving and smiles all the time. He calls me pumpkin granola and he goes pumpkin granola. I just think you know just keep us all on your face and keep that humor and that'll keep you alive. And that's that's I think that's what kept me alive. There's there's four things in survival so there's shelter fire food and water. They say shelters are the most important. And clothing is your number one shelter. So we were stripped of absolutely everything and I've added a fifth element which I think is humor. And I think that with those five things you know you can you could survive pretty much anything.

It's so funny. I just interviewed a survival expert. The last episode and the yeah that is. So it's so interesting when we're talking about humor is so under-rated. And I think what's so interesting is you talk about your clothing and shelter now you can weave a skirt or a hat out of just a palm leaf.

How do you do that. How did you learn that.

Talk to me have to show you when you come here. Well I guess you'll have to come over. You know just well first of all our thatched roofs on our house in Hawaii were all made from palm leaves so I would sit there as a kid and help. We had this group living here from Tonga and they helped us weave our house look like this big basket on the inside. When you'd look up and it's all kind of the same weaving pattern that make the blankets and the baskets and. And my friend coconut Pete who lived on the island here he's a hoot. If you ever visit the south. Corner farmer's market and ask for coconut peat you can he'll make you had open you a coconut. He's a kick but you know drawing on the people from our lives and that's what I would say for anyone what you know wants to accomplish something it's like people do want to help you and I think that show taught me a lot about like asking for help and going to elders and going to friends and it not only proved to me what I had in me but also the people that were there for me and it kind of like created this whole community. I never even knew I had so that's become really special.

So if you had to go back is there anything you would have done differently without show snuck some peanut butter in my ear. In my hair licked it out.

You know no I don't think there's anything that I would have done differently. I think if I would have known ahead of time what I was going into I would have never done it. They've called me multiple times. Words to do more shows like they have a 45 day one now and I'm like No I'm I'm done with. You're here you don't need good survival I'm good. But you know what I did learn is a lot about health.

Like for example I would always get staph infections really easily when I go to a tropical climate surfing. Like if I caught myself I would immediately turn into staff and I I'd always be like why am I so healthy and I clean it. Right.

And I was just terrified that when I go to this tropical location I was getting so cut up on the reef every day trying to get food or eels or snails or everything I would just look like a roadmap on the back of my leg of cuts and they would heal almost instantly. And it was freaking me out most of what is going on there must be something in the water cause you were fasting. Well I would say fasting. Well we were yeah. But I would say a lack of sugar in my diet because staph likes to live on sugar to my understanding.

And you know Gabby had some coconuts and coconut sugar you know within the coconut. But the lackwit I came back and went to the doctor although I was you know emaciated and lost like 20 pounds and it was pretty gnarly he was like 40. I was healthier then they said they'd seen most people. But what I would say is fasting. I don't think it's good for you. I think just having a diet that is clean you know you know clean their sugars clean of processed foods. I don't think starving yourself is the answer. I've had friends go back and do the second taken airfreight and they were losing hair. They've gone through horrible weight things you don't want to do that to your body at all and that's why I don't I don't wonder anymore. Extremes you're viable like I don't think it's healthy. But it did teach me some interesting things.

You know that's that's interesting you know I actually think fasting from sugars or you know from processed food is really healthy and I've had some experience with it. So do you have any PTSD after that. That's that's pretty gnarly experience on the show. My

episode was called the island from hell. I speared this eel which ended up keeping us alive. And in terms of post-traumatic stress when I got home I'd say it was the second night I was back. The first night I couldn't even figure out like which way was up or down like sleeping in a bed was the strangest thing in the world but my mouth. My mom found me on the kitchen floor in the middle of the night asleep trying to spear and the eel and she kind of tackled me and was like What are you doing.

And I'm like I got to get us and we were starving and she's like you're home and I'm like oh my gosh.

It was pretty wild. And the other thing that was kind of trippy is while we're on the show your senses get really heightened because you're so hungry. And even though discovery did an incredible job with the crew like they didn't eat in front of us or anything they would have this trail mix in their backpack and I can smell when they were in here. I know. And so what I got back I went and made sure Ill mix and I slept with it under my pillow for like maybe two weeks just because I was so terrified that I would be you know without food. And it does come up sometimes for me still like I had a really hard time surfing in cold water. I would get paranoid and think that I wasn't going to get warm because even now it was the warmest place probably on earth. We had monsoon season. And they said they'd had some of the worst storms the Maldives had ever seen if not the worst. And we had to survive that with nothing on us and the rains and the winds and we were almost hypothermic and it was so scary and so cold and I just never want to. I wasn't that cold in the Himalayas. So you know I don't I don't ever want to be that again. Yeah it was crazy.

What I love about this show is afterwards it is used as a platform. But I love how you used as a platform because so many people do these shows and then they go on Dancing With the Stars and then they do these like celebrity parties where they get paid money to show up and then you went in you're like I'm going to use my fame to go tell the world about a cause in the Maldives which was plastic pollution and then I recently read that you helped get the plastic ban the plastic Ban Act passed in California.

So I wanted to thank you for that personally.

Only California resident I know preflight help in the Calaf.

I think yours in California. So tell me a little bit about what you did after the show and then the movie you made about plastic pollution because most of the audience might not know about it.

Yeah well it was interesting because every day waking up on that island when I was surviving there'd be water bottles plastic water bottles and other plastic items floating in and Styrofoam from all over the world with labels from Australia and China and America and them all these Indonesia you name it. And I was like wow that's kind of odd. And so as the month went on it became pretty catastrophic to watch it. And then I found out afterwards that it had taken like two villages a week to clean a tiny little island that we were on and it was still covered in plastic. And once you experience something like that it just kind of blew my mind and then I learned that the Maldives is you know home of trash island which nobody's ever really filmed or captured until I came along there were some pictures that some journalists tried to go in there. But I wanted to see what what it was what that meant. It's kind of this mystique thing. Not to mention the Maldives is the lowest lying country on earth. So in terms of climate change they're going under water and if they go underwater all that plastic will be underwater. And it's one of the biggest tuna fisheries it's going straight into the tuna. It's not a great thing. So I came back and started kind of doing my research and the woman that owned the island that we did it get into on she's a Maldivian woman she's incredible. Very fiery you know they're Islamic. They're right. So I am doing a naked show in an Islamic country.

First of all which is so bizarre to me so I want to come back and make a difference. You know not just take from survival's the Earth provides our survival and I thought well how can I give back to the earth for providing me with life because we could have easily died that month and I'm not being melodramatic like this was an experiment discovery never tried something like this and I got so loopy at times that I probably could have died if that. You know I stepped off there on rock or climbed the wrong coconut tree.

I'm just really lucky so what I did is I gathered a team meaning me and Sara Lee who does my incredible photography and Mark stipple who's a cinematographer out of Australia and we marched back to the Maldives. And we are hosted by Shahina the local woman there was a powerhouse She's amazing. And I made a film and it was called One man's trash is another woman's bikini. And basically it's it's it's Kitty it has the Disney flair because I want to make it appealing to all ages but it's really fun and it is all of a sudden just skyrocketed through the roof. I couldn't believe it. You know I had a girl a Lebar in a coconut. No budget. And I went to trash island we went all over we documented what's happening there.

Before I knew what is trash island and what is happening there.

You told people a little bit well it's not this quote floating island in the middle of the Pacific that everybody talks about so take to make that all clear.

There's the Great Pacific Garbage Patch which contrary to popular belief is not just this floating island of plastic it's like micro plastics like very small pieces that just cover this great area of ocean and that's why it's not really clean up a bowl because it's at all levels of the sea. It's not even just scooped off the top. So that's really gnarly because that's what's happening when this plastic breaks down. It's creating these gyres like that air or the gyres of current or creating the plastic to be in those areas. So what is happening in the Maldives is similar. There's micro plastics but there's also a lot of big plastics because of the currents and they flow there from all over the world and trash island is it's actually like a landfill island basically where all of our plastic kind of comes to die. So any boats that are going from the resorts because it's a you know big resort destination. Everything comes and is dumped there or is brought there by ocean currents from bottles coming from all over the world. And it's it's it's crazy it's like the apocalypse like. You should check it out. It's the first movie on my home page at Alison's adventures and it's mine.

We're going to put that up in the show notes. What's the movie called again.

Well at Alison's adventures small Diem's one one man's trash is another woman's bikini and it's called that because I made a bikini out of the plastic bottles. At that point I was you know heck bent on making this plastic into something so that it wouldn't break down and get into the food chain of fish and such. I don't think that's necessarily the answer. Now I think we just need to stop plastic instead of trying to turn it into other things. It just really needs to go and it should not be around. But it was just you know it was incredible. Shelby is that.

It I Just Had A Dream I didn't have any money. I didn't have I didn't even know it was just like oh my gosh I want to do this. I don't even know really know what I was getting myself into but I had a passion and a dream. And before I knew it it was like front of the ahu and CNN and Ellen was calling and Oprah.

I mean it was what it was like something I'd never ever thought I would experience and so like I start going on all these talk shows you know and I would talk about the naked and afraid and did you have sex with the guy and all this and I'm like wait I'm like how could I make plastic pollution just as important as naked people on TV and that has kind of become my mission.

That's really cool. And that is definitely a wild idea that you've lived out cudos know.

I mean is there ever been any doubts in making a movie like that is really daunting going on a show like naked and afraid daunting. How do you get over fear and self-doubt or insecurity. I mean I think you're probably a remarkable woman and maybe you don't have as much as that as other other humans but everybody experiences some level that you know I have self-doubt every day.

I don't have self-doubt that's not the right way to put it.

I have no doubt I don't doubt myself because I know that I can accomplish things you know I think once you accomplish your goal you've got to do baby steps so you accomplish one thing and you go oh I did it. And you get a little more confidence and you accomplish nothing. OK. I did it. See if you want to do something you just kind of have to take baby steps and I've taken the baby steps to know that I can accomplish things. It's more like just doubt in general because there are so many moving parts in this world it's like how can you ever know what's going to happen today and tomorrow so you truly just you have it in yourself and fear really can fog that.

And I just think you have to do everything you can do to push fear out of your mind and what I try to think about is every single person in this world. As far as I know has insecurities right. Yes. You have insecurity. I haven't security. So we're all we all have insecurities so everybody is going to do know I mean like nobody's perfect so go out and do what you do because no matter what. If you don't try it if you don't jump you're never going to try it. You never can succeed.

Yeah. And if they're good you know you just got to try it. Or maybe it won't but it will open doors.

I guarantee that a lot of a lot of the girls one of the first women I interviewed really talks about starting lines and she's like the biggest the biggest thing is you have to start starting lines are more important than finish lines.

And I also love this saying that the best adventures aren't always easy. You've created really your own job your own path out of absolute thin air and a lot of people ask how do you support what you do. Q Can you talk about the financial side of it. And I also want you to talk about the idea of a trust fund because I heard you talk about that before and I love it.

Get a star. That's funny. It was going to start with that. Well to be perfectly clear is I think a lot of people see my life and traveling the world and you've done this and then I don't have money I never have my pet. You know we grew up like I said on a coconut nigger and all of our and it was making ends meet and my parents trying to figure out you know how to live both of the debenture and their dreams and they created this thing where people would always ask you know my gosh how do you guys do it. And they'd say oh we have a trust fund and people got to look at them funny and they say yeah we just trust that the funds are going to be there. And I just think that's great. You have to trust that the funds will be there and a lot of people say well OK. But I still don't have the money. And there comes a point where you kind of have to look at your life and say what do we really need. And I think in our culture we've reached this time where everybody just like I need more money in there. They're reaching and they're reaching but it's not making them happy. It's just making them have more stress and need more. The more you have the more you need. So you know what I do is I grew up in trade. Ok I'm letting you in on my secrets here. I grew up in the in Trade Societies right.

So you give me a bushel of potatoes and you know I'll give you a coconut or however that that works and so I don't believe life has to be dependent on money. I believe that everybody has a talent and something to offer. So see where that can get you. Like for example let's say OK you're a writer right. You're an adventurer. So maybe we colab and you're writing and I'm just making this up. But you're writing an adventure and neither of us are paying each other but we're helping each other and I get your writing and Oprah and you get me in National Geographic and I'm just making this up on the fly. But there's ways where if you talk to people and you make friends and you have a community in and you're a kind person you know that's how I survived growing up in tribes as we were. And this wasn't about using each other. This was about like love. I mean like I would always talk to people in airports. You know you kind of create a community wherever you go that support each other. And that was really incredible skills I think for me now because it's all about what you can create out of nothing. You know called Call 20 people you know ask them for advice ask them if you want to do X you know how do you get to that X what would you have to call what do you have to do. Because I don't think money makes things possible. I think it's passion 100 percent passion.

I love that. I love the trust fund idea. I think it's beautiful. And you also said something really important that love and giving love you kind of get love as well.

It's. And you'd be surprised if you take one little step toward something you want to do and you don't have money and you trust and you just go OK this is going to work you think you might be surprised it'll come back.

I want to talk about surfing because serving is a sport that's really near and dear to a lot of listeners on this show. And you're a big surfer. So tell me about that sport has lured you in. And tell me a little bit about your pink surfboards because they're beautiful and we got to give a shout out to Matt Bulos and all your other shapers because I've seen some of your surfboards and they're great to tell me.

I know Tom. That's right. Yeah they're amazing that been so fun. Well it's been fun and shaping done. You know shaping. It's been fun painting down with Matt and his daughters at last because Ryders is an incredible artist. And you know he's gotten on the bandwagon to help protect the earth and so the boards are made out of recycled coffee cups and plant resin. And you know it's just wild that the whole world and industries are changing and I love that people are taking heed that we need to do good things for our planet.

I did that to the last surfboards are actually made out of eco friendly material and then they're painted by his daughter who's young well not all Author boards are mine you can get them that way.

His daughter was I think five when she first did my surfboard so you'll see the fun like palm trees or flowers and it's just so fun. I love collaborating with kids and and getting their message and helping them get their talents out there it's super fun. That's why surfing. Tell me about the sport for you. Well I've never competed. I'm not a competitor. I do have a passion for big waves not like those crazy men who are mavericks. Oh well I bow down to people who can do that. But I just love to go you know to the remote corner of the world and find fun ways to surf. To me the ocean going up like I always say the world is my classroom and the ocean was my playground. And surfing is my meditation my love my inspiration and I do I carry this pink surfboard around. Even when there is no ocean because to me I think water and ocean is our future. It's essential it's essential for survival and it is essential for my survival every day. And it's what there is the most of in your body in the world. And I just think protecting our waters is really important whether it's from plastic pollution or our any sort of pollution and so a pink surfboard to me symbolizes protecting our waters and it also is for passion and pain. And I always say you know a smile and a surfboard can open any door. So when you walk village you know and you're like oh no hot and you have a pink bikini and a pink surfboard.

It's it's pretty incredible what can happen in the relationships that you can for I just went to France and I took my pink surfboard in the seen river and the full tower and it was like you know comical but I like to make statements that we need to protect our waters and so that's a lot of what Alison's adventures has become about why we're here in France are never there to speak at a climate summit.

Is that correct.

Yeah the world environmental forum on protecting our oceans. And you know it's it's it's a trip Shelby because I grew up you know in the jungles.

And to me Nature was everything and and our life depended upon it. And then as I grew up and realized kind of how much we're destroying it it's like come full circle where I didn't do these things to be on Oprah or be on Ellen or speak at summits. I kind of just started sharing my stories and now I'm just so honored that people are watching them and taking heat and you know suddenly a Hawaiian hello girl with inspiration is with all these scientists. You know I'm here with Frances like the biggest environmental people in the world on these massive stages. Hundreds and thousands of people watching and it's just it's very cool to be able to share my story and make a footprint or encourage people not to make a footprint in the world. And so yeah it's wild that's what that's what I was there for so it's fun I love. Now like you said you saw me speaking at in Patagonia and helping to ban the plastic bag in California by paddling through by own a creek after the rain when all that plastic was out there and you know just doing my part. I think we have to dive in and do our part. We can't wait around for. It. Of course government helps and all that but every single person can make a difference every day by like refusing a single use plastic or turning off a light or saving water or just giving someone a hug.

Giving giving someone a hug is is actually really powerful. But you said you just paddled through this creek but it was a filthy nasty Creek and you did it for a message. So for the audience who do doesn't know what that is that's Allisons referring to and I'm guessing you have awesome video footage of that on your Web site yeah I do hey it's recent on my blog also if you go to one of my last Facebook videos.

I'm just I'm blown away it went to like a couple of million views in a day. I was contacted by my friends from Surfrider. Tina Segura and Michael Courtney in Los Angeles and you know she goes Hey Allison you got your fix there for the like of course I do. And I get there and it's they call it the first flush so it's like the big first rain in L.A. where you know everything from the water sources throughout the city are brought together into the creek and then go into the ocean. And we thought well to make a statement I would paddle through it and then I got there and was like heck no I'm not Palin do that. So I took my paddleboard. So I didn't have to actually get in the water because it was pretty nasty and paddled through it and threw it up on Facebook as like a you know hey let's ban the bag and let's not use plastic shopping bags during Christmas. And you know a whole smorgasbord of let's protect our earth. And it went so viral and then CNN just contacted me and I was just headline CNN news from my crash back in Hawaii. I'm talking about Indiana Jones The female Indiana Jones saves our planet. It does. So how do I feel blessed to have that voice now and I think you know I think naked and afraid and just being having this platform to just now be a voice. And I think that would be my inspiration to people is you know go big or go home like you kind of get one life right.

So what can you do in this world to give back and to focus out. Because the more you focus out the happier you'll be inside. I know a lot of people think like oh if I'm selfish I'm going to be happy or if I focus on me that's going to make me happy and it doesn't really work that way. I've found that it's better to see what you can do for the world and for each other.

I love that I'm just going to ask you kind of advice questions but I actually do want to kind of go into a little bit more advice. If you could go back in time and tell your 15 year old self one thing what would you tell her.

This is so funny. This just came to my head when you said that. So I think I'm a storyteller right. I believe stories are the most important way to pass on information to a real quick story. When I went to high school for the very first time I went to a little high school in Aspen Colorado if you can imagine like you know you think of Aspen Colorado. It's about the most different from Home schooling in a jungle you can imagine. And there is a dance team. They don't have cheerleaders there is dance team and I really you know I danced around the world. I was a Bonny's dancer. Hulet answer and I I wanted to get this dance team. So they held auditions and. And it was everyone from the school the principals the dance squad the football player you know the basketball everybody was there to watch these auditions. So here comes Allison right in a grass skirt and coconut shells. I come out to do my audition and most girls you know they were doing a Miley Cyrus take off dancer like Beyonce and they do their 15 seconds of twerking and they leave and then they either get past. It troop or they don't. So I come out there in my coconut my grasp or I do a Hawaiian chant and then I do a hula. And everyone was like style. I don't even think they knew what to think.

And I kind of just I got so embarrassed because it was suddenly like you know Adam and Eve realizing they were naked like I had never thought that anything I did was and normal and all of a sudden I was like oh my gosh and it kind of set me back a bit and thinking back to that because I was probably about 14 15. That's a lot. I wish you weren't a young girl. I wish I would have just owned Oh I was so like that movie Mean Girls that was totally me. I was the home school girl you know that came in and didn't even know what a school bus was and I think that I wish I would just you know my advice would be to own it. Own every Because if you own it people are like oh well OK cool. It's amazing what what you can do if you own it rather than like oh shoot maybe I'm not normal and you know but it's funny because Flash forward you know a million years to naked and afraid and a million. Flash forward to my stint on naked and afraid and those coconut shells and grass skirt in everything kept me alive. And it kind of I always think about that day where it's like at the time I felt weird. But you know I'm so glad I stuck with my roots because it's kept me alive through many situations.

I love that advice and I love that story. I can just see you now. And you know you're not you're you are like Lindsay Lohan in the movie but you're not like Lindsay Lohan.

You don't drink. You don't really party. You're a pretty good kid a good clean little guy.

That's something else I would advise. I don't have a judgment for people who drink or smoke or you know I think every man to themselves. But my advice would be everybody always trips out and they're like how do these things just happen for you how do they manifest. And I'm like well my one of my little secrets is I've never drank. And to me I think that drinking. I think there's this pipeline you can call it a pipeline to God to the universe to Spirit to your guardian angel to have coconut in the sky. I don't know but there's a pipeline. And when you I feel like when need drink and you do mind altering substances it clogs that pipeline and that's your kind of pipeline of manifestation. I mean I also think that I want to be healthy healthy and I don't I don't really want that kind of thing in my body. And it also drains your pocketbook. Let me tell you people always like how do you travel and you want a cheaper way to travel. Don't drink but you know I can't tell you not to I know it's every man for themselves but that's been my experience is that it goes beyond the physical and more to the spiritual.

I I just think that it can prevent you manifesting your dreams I love that I think that's really important and great advice especially to young people and old people really.

Do you have any routines and you go out at that and don't feel bad like people always say oh my god what are you on.

I'm like a life and I wish like that I'm like you.

Do you have any routines you stick to every day like ways you eat meditation things you do every day.

Surfing It's funny you ask I'm actually not. I believe in almost like non-routine.

I think kind of harkening back to we were all got to get really deep on you know I think we were you know nomads to begin with and so we were always moving in and people often feel stuck because Yeah well we're supposed to be moving and doing different things and seeing different things and moving to different watering holes and finding different animals and building different shelters and I think that's the way to keep your brain active and to keep your body going and to keep yourself alive. I'm not suggesting you sleep in a different place every night. That doesn't get exhausting. But you know just keep keep moving. In terms of I guess there's things I'd do without even knowing it. Like I definitely eat healthy. And I definitely surf as much as I can every day or twice a day if I if I can ski snowboard. You know I think staying active is incredibly important. The ocean to me is just kind of my my my happy place. So to say but yeah I mean I don't know in terms of and think of straight off I guess I just do it automatically. I think sleep is a is a huge important one and I'm not like a huge late night rage or sleep dance dance and laughter and love humor.

Yeah laughter would shake shake it up shake it up get up yeah work it up and that's what's the best gift you've ever been gifted chocolate I love dark chocolate.

You know I always say the world I think my parents literally gave me the world. They tried to give me a upbringing and an experience that was very very different than most. And they trusted themselves. And when everybody said they were probably kind of kooky. So I think that's what I've been gifted is not just that life but it's almost giving me this different perspective on the world in a sense that you know of course I go to like a metaphysical thing because physical things don't really like gifts. Of course I love gifts everybody loves gifts. But like I love the gifts that are that are love and that are that are intangible Yeah that are and tangible that are adventure. And that's kind of what's special to me. So I have to kind of think them for giving me the world.

Your parents sound incredible also. And you've got an incredible life and you've you've been doing amazing things with it. So thank you so much for sharing with all of us. This is just a great interview I'm really enjoying it. I have to ask you just two more questions. What books I love to recommend to people out there this so funny that you ask me.

It's just classic because I was thinking like I she read I have not been reading in so long because I've been writing. I've actually been writing my own book which is it's funny when you think of a book you're like oh I'm going to read it right. Right I'm like OK I'm in it right. So I'm working on that.

But you know growing up I was really little I would read and I think reading when you're young is essential. And then as I grew up I started to realize as many of the cultures that I grew up in it was like I said based on the stories that were verbal and what I find is like if I go on an airplane or find it go somewhere instead of bringing a book I like to learn people stories and I know it doesn't really answer your question. But I'm not a huge reader and not because I don't like to read or I don't think it's important but I kind of like to keep my senses up and learn the stories that are around me because I think that kind of keeps the community and the cycle of life going. Does that make sense.

Yeah. No I think that's great. You know everybody's different and I love talking to people randomly in the grocery store or on a plane. My parents used to invite the guys who bagged her groceries or that they met at the gym everywhere for Thanksgiving dinner so I grew up in a family like that.

You just talk to everybody. Which is why I did a podcast so I can talk more. I love talking to people. I love hearing stories of people who have lived while the gone after their dreams and made it happen despite any kind of limits. And I just have to ask you it sounds like you've got a book in the works which is really exciting. I know you're doing retreats for men and women and possibly people of all ages at your beautiful house in Hawaii that we're going to come visit. What else is next in your life. And where can people find out more.

Oh my goodness. Well I never know where I'm going to be tomorrow. But yeah finishing up this book and also I just got back from Fiji so I'm working on a series. You're going to crack up. But I took this globe like a you know like a school globe a world and I took it all over and I'm doing you know I put it in plastic. I jumped on it. I gave it to people of different cultures and I'm doing a series of you know we have the world in our hands and it's kind of up to us now like what we do with it that we cut open. And you could watch everything on my Facebook on my Instagram. I guess. You could say I have a YouTube series I mean I guess I'm I'm not really out to become a YouTube star but my whole idea with YouTube is that I want a vehicle where everyone around the world can watch it for free like share in schools or share it with their family and that seems to be the best vehicle. As of now also like Facebook the biggest ones and the most prominent films I've done are on my web site Allisons adventures Ellison's adventures with one L and S and M the s again I get to come check them out.

I'm going to put all these on the show notes. I actually have to go back and ask you one more question. This is something I'm struggling with too.

You know you're an adventurer but you also do videos and films and a lot of things that you do requires a bit of computer time and technical tide. So this is like Adventure's outdoor girl but you have to be a little bit connected to computers. Can you just talk a little bit about this duality between these worlds and what your creative process is like and how you deal with it.

So funny you just said that because I was literally just checking like is my Coconino by still working. I'm kind of in the middle of nowhere here.

You got a couple of times but it's been pretty good.

Oh good. OK. That's pretty funny. Yeah. Well number one you'll be surprised where there is Wi-Fi like I've had better. I fly under a coconut tree with a donkey in Mexico than I have in downtown Los Angeles.

Like it's a trip where there is Wi-Fi nowadays which is kind of a blessing and a curse because it doesn't really allow you to disconnect very often because you are always on it. Yeah I mean it is it's it's definitely a struggle for everyone.

I try to balance it and you know part of me is like why the heck am I creating something or people have to be on the computer more to watch it. But what really changed my mind is I went on a school tour in Philadelphia one day and this little girl came up to me afterward and she was sobbing. She had watched one of my films and I was like oh. And she goes you know Alison. She's so cute. These little pigtails like so tiny. She goes I'll see him before I saw your film. I thought I had nothing to live for. And and my mom is dying of cancer. And now that I've seen your films I know that there's magic in the world and there's people that will be my friend and I was like wow you know this little girl would have never seen any of this if it wasn't for the computer and for the series so you have to kind of take that approach of who can you reach with all this and in terms of the personal like how do I balance my own life in editing like I do all the editing.

I do everything pretty much for it. It's incredible to have people like Sarah you know creating photos and footage that I can use but it's a ton of work and my only answer to that is like you have to do it and it's a lot and you have to commit to it and you have to work. I mean I went in in a hole literally for six months when I did my last mile into the island of the fire walkers and I was my mom says it's like having a dog all of a sudden worship put like food under my door because I did a lot of big interviews when I was like younger right out of college and so you know I was still at home and they were helping me. I'm actually at home right now but we're pretty close. But you know you have to. You just have to have those times and so it's the times of adventure and then it's the times of balance where you come home and you work on it and you got to work hard. I mean I don't know if you have any questions specifically but I definitely get.

That's it. I mean I have a friend who's saying to French Polynesia and he has a YouTube video series that he's creating to do just kind of similar things you're doing and then he said something similar and we now he's able to reach so many people and have this conversation in a much bigger level than you'd ever be able to do. Does he like staring at his computer. No. But he's doing it in a beautiful place and it's for a greater good.

Exactly you just kind of have to keep that in your mind and start to think of it as not try to think of it but is not a bad thing and to get off of that you know as much as you can which it's always a struggle but that's why surfing and everything you have to be in the ocean. Luckily they're not too waterproof.

Allison I've really enjoyed this conversation. You're an incredibly talented woman. You've done so much for the world. I love your humorous fun playful positive approach to life. It's really refreshing for the audience listening. I'll have everything in the show notebook please. Check out Allison Adventure's dot com one L and Allison. And with that I'll leave you with the giant Aloha Mahalo. Thank you Alison.

You're beautiful to interview with Mahalo Thank you. We'll see you on the island soon and I'm sure for a board meeting.

That sounds great. So thank you audience. And we will check you out next week. Bye. Wow what a great storyteller. I know that was a long one but folks I really hope you enjoyed the interview with Alison.

What I love about her is she really lives with this just pink bright passion and she's all about making the world a better place. One step at a time. Plus I loved the fact that there are birds in the background of that interview just sort of made me want to book a flight to Hawaii. Like tomorrow anyways. I'll have more info with links to items. Allison and I spoke about in the show notes just go wild. Ideas Worth Living dot.com. Go to the podcast section. Click on Allisons show and you can find out all that information links on how to find her as well. She's got incredible information on her Web site. Tons of interesting episodes and videos. Next week we have bestselling author and underwater breathing expert James Nestor. James has a great story about ditching the nine to five to become a writer which a lot of people ask me. Hey Shelby how did you quit your job to become a writer. Well James did it and he did it. And he's a bestselling author and his books are becoming movies and he talks about exploring the depths of the sea. His writing process. We're going to also talk to him about his new venture into the world of breathing. It's a good episode.

So stay tuned for next week. Don't forget to go to wild ideas we're living dot com. Thank you all for listening. Thank you so much for subscribing. I really appreciate all of your support and love. And don't forget some of the best adventures happen when you follow your wildest idea. We'll see you next week.

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