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Here’s the Wild Idea

Karen’s and Adriana’s Wild Idea: To encourage diversity in the outdoors and change how the media portrays who plays outside.

Part of living wildly is standing up for what you believe in. After not seeing people who looked like them represented in the outdoors, today’s guests took action.

Karen Ramos and Adriana Garcia are two young women who started movements to encourage diversity and representation in the outdoor industry.

The daughter of migrant farmers turned entrepreneurs, Karen loved being outdoors and camping with her family when she was younger. She wanted to provide that same opportunity to kids today, so she founded Get Out, Stay Out, an organization that connects indigenous-migrant children with the outdoors through hikes, camping trips and multi-day backpacking adventures.

Adriana Garcia grew up Mormon, half-Mexican, and in the south. She said she never felt like she belonged until she got outside. Last year, she left her accounting job to co-found LatinX Hikers with her friend, Luz Lituma. It’s become a platform to showcase people from diverse backgrounds participating in outdoor activities. They are offering meet-ups and hikes all over the south.

On this show, I talk to Karen and Adriana about their history, some of their unique experiences in the outdoors, how they’re trying to change the landscape of who plays outside, and how you can get involved.

Presented by REI

Listen to this Episode if

  • You want to see more diversity in the outdoors.
  • Hearing new perspectives matters to you.
  • You want to see people like you represented in the media.
  • The outdoors has helped you.

Key Takeaways

  • 2:00 – How Karen got her Instagram handle, Nature Chola.
  • 3:10 – Karen’s family is from Oaxaca.
  • 4:35 – How Karen started Get Out Stay Out.
  • 7:10 – The kids that Karen’s organization serves.
  • 7:45 – Why Karen sees a different side of kids outside versus in the classroom.
  • 9:10 – The demographic Karen works with.
  • 10:00 – Karen’s own experience in the outdoors.
  • 11:40 – Why Karen wants to change the narrative.
  • 12:45 – What is next for Get Out Stay Out.
  • 13:55 – Karen’s advice for others who want to get outside.
  • 15:20 – What Karen wants for the future of her organization.
  • 17:10 – Why Karen loves bandanas.
  • 20:20 – Adriana’s youth was a mashup of Mexican, Southern, and Mormon culture.
  • 21:35 – What her movement LatinX Hikers is.
  • 24:05 – What LatinX means.
  • 25:45 – Where you can find LatinX hiking meet-ups.
  • 27:25 – How social media can get more people outside.
  • 29:50 – Why Adriana decided to shave her hair.
  • 31:25 – What other resources there are for creating more diversity in the outdoors.
  • 32:05 – What Adriana’s goals are for her organization.

Connect with Karen and Adriana

Karen’s Website
Karen’s Facebook
Karen’s Twitter
Karen’s Instagram
Adriana’s Instagram


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Unlikely Hikers
Melanin Basecamp
Brown Environmentalists
One Wave is All It Takes
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